HOW CAN NATIONS THRIVE IN TIMES OF WAR?

The discussion revolves around the possibility of decoupling prosperity from politics, with Kirill emphasizing Russia's economic relationships and growth despite perceived isolation. He highlights the positive example of Saudi-Russia relations leading to investments and the negative example of immigration policies in Europe. Kirill points to the Global South as an example of decoupling politics and business, citing trade figures with China and India. He contrasts Russia's macroeconomic indicators favorably against those of the EU and the UK. The conversation touches on the impact of sanctions on Western nations and the importance of honest dialogue. Dmitriev advocates for sovereign wealth funds like PIF as engines of development and stability. He discusses interconnectivity in energy, technology, and tourism, suggesting joint infrastructure projects, including a Russia-Alaska tunnel. AI development in Russia is mentioned, and the importance of citizen diplomacy and understanding different perspectives is stressed. Dmitriev expresses hope for peace and increased joint investments for global security.